On the WB in -- line this morning is art Wheaton labor specialists from the labor school Cornell university -- good morning. According talking about the NFL referees side and boy there couldn't be a bigger high profile labor dispute. In this country than what we're seeing right now in the NFL because it is the most popular sport in the country. Art what do you what are you seeing from your vantage point and that's. I I think it's. Kind of interesting to see where you got agreement on both Republicans and the Democrats that we need to end this. Lockout a lot of people seem to think that it's the strike but it's not it's a -- got the and it felt as that we will not allow any of their referees around -- to come to work. And I think it's a pretty high profile that it's making an impact and making it different. And -- just hang -- that is not a strike but you know these replacement referees they are I mean aren't they essentially. Strike breakers knowing all the referees are not on strike they're locked out -- the league but this news. A work stoppage in every sense of the word. Oh absolutely and it's. Made popular by Ronald Reagan and -- -- and air traffic controller strikes that they they had the ability to have permanent replacements and a -- out for. Since about 1938. But they were used very often because they create a lot of problems. And you're seeing them on live TV on Monday Night Football that -- create big problems you don't have professionals do their job. Well does the NFL have a target -- -- now especially after what happened Monday night. I don't think there's any question that they were brought back to the bargaining table they're gonna try to get a deal done as fast as they can. I would be surprised that this last more than one more week. I think we may see the last of the permanent replacement -- -- because -- hurts the image of the NFL. So it's not work -- of them I think it was eight point three billion dollars and revenue they got last year. In their fighting over a very small percentage. And it affects our quality and affect the safety of the players. Stringing equality once the lockout does -- on the real rough terrain is go back to -- boy will the pressure beyond them to make the right calls are watt. I think -- at the pressure's going to be even more on the permanent replacements this weekend. So now you've got a blown coverage you're blown call and every single call they make all the time is going to be questioned again. And I think the players and the coaches have been trying to. Test them and put additional pressure on that permanent replacement but you got to remember most of these folks have not had any kind of training. In terms of keeping up that pace of an NFL game so it's very different from doing alliger bicycle -- doing NFL on the world stage I'd like TP. Share came art could this lockout changed the way that we look at lockouts and strikes. Do you think it already I think it's put that image in place that oh maybe it's not great -- to say things for just money. That if you have quality or safety involved it's like you know what this is affecting a lot of different people. Even Las Vegas got intercepted a lot like 300 million dollars because of a blown call. Everyone wants to pay attention and you wanna have a little bit more predictability. In the outcome of what's gonna happen. -- we're glad you could join us this morning thanks for the insight. Anytime thanks very much. Art Wheaton is a labor specialist from the labor school of Cornell University.