Seventeen degrees outside and it feels like minus five. Whether -- dealer folks with -- out there and you're stuck in it or you can tell me words it's that is you gives -- 030930. Or start 930 on your cellphone. Michael -- in for Tom are the times here with Jerry's donor who is the chairman. Of the Erie county Democrat party. As Jeremy. I was plan on smacking down for this Franken stuff but it turns out you know the culprit aria. Now it looks like there is bipartisan support. That I'm out there I guess you know what. Legislator John Mills and legislator Kevin Hardwick. I'm you can -- by people. See you around a lot. You're wrong and John Mills I understand -- tell a story today about how some resident in your district. Was so lighting is water on fire just like it did -- propaganda movie gasoline but I bet legislator mills you didn't know. The that was an absolute lie in -- and the Colorado department of natural resources. Reported that to the residence when the residents who live his -- on fire in gasoline. There are no indications of any oil and gas -- impacts your well water that is the EPA. Of the of Colorado no conservative organization agency concluded that the natural gas in that water. Was derived from natural sources the water well penetrated several coal beds that release the methane -- well naturally. Which is exactly what happened to your constituents chairman -- Your constituent. Was watching gas land and told you that and you believe them and you voted against jobs in buffalo. Vote against jobs and Erie county before we get with Jeremy your wanna. I want to pick up John and Hamburg John your -- with Michael Capuano and Germany's founder chairman apartment or party. Hi John thanks for waiting. I didn't. In -- -- -- involved in the growing at probably. Somali neighborhood of a thousand natural gas and oil well and Western New York north west Pennsylvania should talk or care Argus said Allegheny. Warren county Erie county Pennsylvania. There was one case where we contaminated. Anyone well water of course -- You know it's very interesting you brought this business about the guests and people being able polite there ought to. I have personally seen that but I -- seen it from water wells wells drilled into. Water table and natural gas is rubble you can pick up -- -- Lake -- Piece of their shelves cracked open and actually melt some of the petroleum remember it was you know what they're naturally you know over millions of years. It's it's there. There's nothing they can go all out that there are water well drillers it will drill. You'll provide what the altar which will filter out the metric that's not nothing to -- -- realized that. We don't well drilled. They go in the water table. And do for the well is it or put into production -- at least. What are. You'll fight and layer. Which -- -- law water able. That's it and I'm not sure you are there are more pollutants. Into. The water chaebol why. Farmers crucial times used pesticides. And other things that helped grow their products. There's also you know influx of you know animal species and other things that are in the water -- You know we can do nothing about what -- -- -- any fluid or anything which used for a while the contaminated fresh water. It is not gonna happen. Right have to worry here in -- China or water normally here -- it's not Albrecht who are like you're I don't know where these people are coming from. These are the same people who go against the peace urged a go against the casino they go against your buildings down low they wanted to -- Today they have a purpose they have nothing to do so receive their work correctly I think the set. And I I don't wanna start report but they're ignorant fool. Yeah John thank you for calling you don't. John John and John for county legislature that's Nancy Johnson County alleges -- You know sixty dollars look undergraduate geology. Merely another 50 -- and graduate studies. I know all about the geology -- -- your -- what Pennsylvania. It's a big industry there rolling it. Yeah absolutely absolutely I know Pennsylvania's thank goodness hey John thanks -- you know Jeremy. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You know period and I would week let's err on the side of caution I think that's we sought to right. Well you know I went after my monologue in the beginning. Than -- an alien just enough I really need to blame the Republicans service. Particularly need to be in plain Jon Mills and Kevin -- to people respect very much. Who fell for this. I you know unless you're the chairman of the Democratic Party I gotta give you pass you know this is something that. But it your caucus believes and this is something that that you believe your constituents want -- to do and and if the Republicans silence that made it happen but tell me something. How did you get into this dirty game. Actually Michael I started about ten years ago literally walked in off the streets are volunteering at democratic headquarters worked on a bunch of different campaigns. Some that always wanted to do I want to serve. The public serve the community that I lived in my whole life kind of came from union background with my apparently. Fine didn't we all -- Western New York. -- auto workers and so you know just some that I've always been interested in and it worked the last ten years my way up and became executive director and then ran for chairman. This television service executive director. Three years now three years and and what made -- after sitting there for three years and watching closely what made you think it would be good idea to become chairman of a political organization well after chairman when it left that -- the kind of keep the good work that we've been building up. The party -- -- going and I think it was you know I was bringing in the right direction. People were asking for younger leadership. Fresh leadership -- he's not been entrenched for twenty years in the political system here and I think that's -- -- bring. Yeah you do you know I I. I really appreciate -- -- sat here yesterday with pat Burke and he has kind of the same story -- walked off the street and now reason he's in the legislature. You -- it was a little surprising. Yeah I mean he united has some great discussions over the last couple weeks and you know we've talked about some of the similarities we have you know he -- he says you know I should be here this -- you know -- worked my butt off for the position and I really -- be here but this -- you know it's against the incidents this kind of the same thing in my -- -- he kind of defy gravity you know. And the gravity is is. Is really what it's all about because. The you know if you know this thing for example distracting stuff I mean. The reason why I'm sure I mean I like Erica and I like I mean I -- Jon -- he was my legislator until they did the redistricting. You know the the momentum is against -- because all the messaging and and even though much of it is lies. And and even Republicans iPhone four but I wanted to take a real quick caller here. Major -- -- and Jerry from buffalo thanks for home. You're on with your result from the Democratic Party. Yeah mighty Tom I appreciate. Appreciate the topic com. Just in full disclosure. I'm retired from the -- sure gas industry and in always desperate agrees street or in the world and you're talking about. Oil lobbyists and stop that. Better off against the distracting -- I think you could add to that the coal industry. And also the railroad. I mean if they take. You know all of a plant down on Kirk and the plant appeared -- wander off. Off our goal on permanent natural habitats. It'd it'd certainly be it further business. But flip side of that. You know all of -- if we can't keep all the BSN. What Ernie are -- shipped to Canada. You it's -- -- on the way there shipment you know -- Yeah and you know I -- I just felt honored and that I mean I'll. And for all my own industry a little bit you know but this country does not have an energy policy yeah. And he -- think. But I mean it's all it's all dollars and fountain and companies -- it -- -- In all -- that didn't pay your share over. What do you think give -- OK you on this you've got these good. And you've got them and there are -- bottle Laporte good for thirty years now mean the idea is. Take on the market -- this magic -- in her -- for. Of course of course what Terry thank you very much for calling and appreciating liberal perspective from someone from the industry. You know we're gonna have to go to -- real quick for traffic. Seventy degrees outside and minus five temperatures drop him as the sun news. Mrs. Michael Google I'm here with -- on Tom our show here on WB. And Jeremy that you are a way how -- you now. 35 Tom I'm allowed to ask. I don't know if -- -- -- we have a very young Republican chairman and decline. You know what does that say about the party leadership I mean we've got two very young people now. Movement parties for. Well I I think it shows that toss some young people are getting involved I think it's kinda a call from more people to be involved not just young people when they're everybody you know. Was funny again that you were just talking to one of -- run for legislatures could couldn't say no fast and right right arm but you know people are interest that these issues they just don't wanna go through. You know actions of getting elected and that's that's our challenge honestly -- and a. Well you know I it I know I remember nick was. Really beat the bushes were a comptroller candidate until we found it's a -- of course your beat the bushes in the guys the next -- Is your -- -- -- you know it's tough you know I if somebody came to me and asked me to run for office at -- Elmer knots. You know this this this political atmosphere. People who wanna get involved you know it's it's it's it's a lot of personal resources you've got to open yourself up as we saw some personal attacks this last go round. And people just don't wanna do that they wanna go along with a and by the way Michael one of the biggest issues we have is the pay scale right the county comptroller pays 79000 that's a great. That's a great test salary for anybody in western new York and anywhere else for that matter. But it's not if Europe us certified public accountant -- gone to school and got your degree in. You could make a lot more money in the private sector and not have to open up your. Whole life to the public. So that that's that's kind of -- hindrance the same thing with the sheriff's office the sheriff. You know any any police officer in the towns and villages in your recounting. Who's got some seniority is making more than the Erie county share. Is that true and something's gotta be done about that now and you know but people when they see people want him. Officials want to give themselves raises and maybe it's something about reason in the future for future -- absolutely I mean but but it has its. He knew he wouldn't be -- John Glass got for sheriff in 2009. He was gonna take a 20000 dollar pay cut to be this year for you want. So it's it's hard thing to ask of them do well listen we're gonna take a quick break and pay the bills and Jeremy you're gonna stick around going to be we got some weather issues I know -- -- gonna have him for for the keys to April absolutely. -- and -- -- -- are in for Tom narrowing here on newsreader remind the WBM will be right back. And yeah I can take Christmas music. But not the voice command Christians. Shows that it's not fair it's not fair at all I I'd okay are out. Click the computer here for Tom -- he's out on vacation until Monday. This news -- -- WB you know I'm in studio with journeys -- we're gonna go to fall weather all the time after the segment. Until it traffic weather slows down so germs from a couple of minutes. You know Jeremy. How you know you're leaving the legislature. And we -- we don't really know the makeup of the democrats' side in the minority for next year we we know we do with Betty Jean grant who's. Minority. Eager to -- the minority leader -- is going to be ready Jean grant we've had this. The -- a couple of meetings in the last few weeks where we have a petition out from India and she's got three signatures hopefully will have four -- five million the year. And you know how is your life change I mean. And how will the party changed now that your opponent 10% focused and you don't have to wait until after the work -- and well it's Bennett it's been a difficult a couple years doing both jobs you know honestly putting in the full time. Chief of staff full time chairman is not easy especially with eight month old right -- was taken -- whole little bit and it's just it's time to move on in the party deserves full time chairman. I'm I'm up for reelection this year. And that was -- important state wide races and important state legislative races coming up and so it's you know it's important that I'm there which race should -- keeper. Well we we the county clerk is up for reelection and we hope to field a strong candidate against him. We've got you know markers on these up for reelection that's a democratic district. And you know all the assembly members Europe as well congressman Higgins is off for reelection looked. -- to working hard for for him. So we'll see. You know I've I've run this blog politics and -- -- it and -- read all the news in the morning Mika on behalf of my clients and -- 3.2 billion pages that read in the morning and I put up all the best New York oriented national oriented news Pakistan from up in an airplane something -- today I put up very interesting story. Photos from the Mandela delegation that went over -- on these photos. Obama by himself and President Bush W bush by himself etc. but apparently if you look at the politics and point and then click on that thing you can -- photos. Where they actually flew over there to -- You know and they hung out as a picture of them having dinner together on Air Force One it was. Bill and Hillary's Clinton. George W and and Laura Bush. And the president and and and and mrs. Obama. And they're having a blast you know. Yeah I think when you get to that level you can't relieve. Commiserate with anybody else -- -- statement I think that's what you know why isn't. Why is it's like -- -- at the top winds down at the bottom here with me and you went to meet you when I get along but there's so much fight. There is but there's also cooperation I mean I think we've the county executive for for instance is on a great job in the last since he's been elected him in. Kind of bring in the infrastructure back to accounting helping get the call trolls off the ground no matter you know funding the libraries. Bringing jobs to the community you know since he took ovaries there's been 171000 jobs created in your account right. You know that's what's cooperation and I hope that's what we see moving forward with the new legislature instead of politics. Yeah you know I I when I saw those photos and I've I spent some time on Air Force One workers. W.'s dad. And I saw and I travelled a bit. When I was working in Washington. To see that I mean they they -- honestly haven't there's a picture of George W and Clinton. Actually sitting together and leaning one clintons leaned back and you you know their friends. -- you know and when anyone leaves office they suddenly become likeable -- that we'll let you know there's actually a caller here Tim from west Seneca -- got a question for the chairman. Tim are -- then. I'd. Like. Of the trip to exit lecture when you are aware and are what are now. As far that your number I don't. -- who's representing. The committee now. Okay thank you very much for your questions and thanks Symonds in surely it was horrible accident with him McFarland and again here's a great guy who believed in his community work very hard for it. At this point I'm gonna be kept contact in the officers who were elected vice chairs the secretary recording secretary. On the Tennessee what they wanted to do and would probably call a full meeting of the committee to organize and vote for a new chair at some point. But you know is some time needs to be put in between. You know tragedy and when we Riordan the you know the time for politics still I don't think is any -- -- you know it's interesting I I I think I met him once but -- Everybody. I've talked to Republican Democrat independent. Everybody had great words. He had Dan and I were not always on the same side which ironically that night though we had a meeting of all over town cheers and he voted to support me for reelection next year and he believed we needed just cut this fighting out it's detrimental to the party when you move forward we kind of independent character -- I mean he wasn't one once via this and right. It's terrible in Ariza a young guy and to see that happen I mean I'm hoping that. With Seneca well you've got some leaders yet so the answer is you know why it's not my job to insert myself into the town politics however. I'm what I'd like to see is the officers -- and you know will call a meeting of all the whole committee and they can decide who's in the next year's going to be an appropriate time. Before we go off weather wanna luckiest you're colony -- about cracking. I keys. Are what are you what your question keep. Question I have unique perspective on it I may actually. Actually -- -- waterworld thriller I entered I stayed. And I'm also the only -- in the world thriller that. As equipment to do. The work in -- state. You -- the bottom line of it is it's maybe my industry got out ahead this thing and really. You know put some information out there. It's really too bad -- -- -- is going on. And it's not chipped up but it never really pollute. The water. That we're using every day. Yeah that's -- and by the way the one thing you know this and endearment you know this. It's cold today it's very cold you know how many of us here in Western New York are are are keeping warm with fracture natural gas. Almost all of us. Almost all of -- yet we can't do it in New York keep. Thank you very much for calling -- would have to go to all weather all the time I may be back a little bit later but right now I gotta give that we've given over to the experts and whether. Because it's coming down. And good afternoon to you is 447 at WBE and and I'm Tim Wenger thank you Michael computer -- and the conversation about fracking always an interest in one. Especially today when know what was going on downtown with -- Erie county legislature but does this is again one of those days. Where in Western New York. You grow their stock right now on the roads in the snow's coming in and it's not like Armageddon here it's not like. Old man winners really thrown -- -- -- But at any rate it's slow enough in a lot of different spots and that's why I need your help today and we all could use says some camaraderie if you're stuck in a car or truck or wherever you are. Out on the roads wanna hear from you at 8030930. And star 930 those are the numbers. Two I give WB and call that a snow. Where the snow is how bad it is and what it's doing to the traffic -- can tell you outside of our studios here in hammers as snow his. Picked up over the past 45 minutes or so since about 4 o'clock. You know to the point where visibility is definitely an issue and I'm looking at the radar at WB EN dot com right now. And watching that blue blob of snow -- it really has drifted well into the on metro area. Stretching from downtown buffalo downtown buffalo now completely it's covered by by the snow. And then there's also kind of a finger of whether that's going up over the Amherst area where we're situated here it our studios of and Amherst off of maple road near the 290 and it goes all the way up to Lake Ontario so. A lot of different people are getting a lot of different weather conditions. And I'd be interested to find out what it's like where you are again that were lining the calls right up now. At 8030930. From the weather service of band of moderate to heavy lake effect snow. Is going to continue to do what it's doing and it's gradually lifting northward impacting. Here in Erie county in and over in Genesee in northeastern Wyoming counties as well. And the rates of that snow -- times could be in the one to two inches an hour and we don't know if you're from around here what that can be like. At times and is I heard one of the meteorologists say earlier today. It doesn't matter that only lasts -- hours so if you're getting one to two inches it's not the accumulation is. Well you know what's in front your car and that is generally white out conditions combined that with the cold. And it is called seventeen degrees feels like minus five right now. In if all of that isn't enough I can tell you within about the past hour and a half the weather services told us. When this is said and done. I -- Saturday and Sunday they've now issued a winter weather advisory. For another system coming our way general snowfall from 6 AM Saturday until 6 AM Sundays that he likes. We are in it in we've got some weather if you were listening to John's record earlier today got two feet of snow out of his place. In couldn I'm in the south towns and we got -- shy. Of -- foot so often the phones were gonna go find out what it's like where you are and again 8030930. In -- 930. You can also text -- at 3930 I'll be watching the text line to. The find out what that is. Bringing in as far as comments are concerned and I lied just before we do. Some of these calls that are lining up we're gonna check traffic and weather together we do it on the tens and Allen is in traffic command elements up. All right Allan thank you it's going to be busy afternoon for the WB and traffic center and Allan over the air lake effect snow warning that continues until 5 o'clock tomorrow morning. Tough evening commute is a lot of you -- finding out we're gonna hear from you in just a moment lake effect flurries and squalls. The very here three to six inches. And more down on the south towns it'll all settle back down that way. Later on when I need to drive down that way again tomorrow gets a little bit better but Saturday more snow winter weather advisory from six -- Saturday to six day. On Sunday seventeen degrees right now feels like. Minus. Five he can text us that 3930. You know watch those -- that's easiest way for you to let us know what's going on and of course call us. At 8030930. And Starr at 930 let's go to dale right now dale you're on WB and where are you dale. Well I'm glad you -- in try to add salt it's taken me over one hour. Goal from 33. Which is at -- near Genesee street and I still that it will. I hate you -- you know some times people say to me when because I'm always coming from the south towns are going to the south towns from up here. And in people always say why don't you try union are -- -- you try transit it's probably the worst thing you can possibly do in the through -- messed up is to go on union or transit. It really is -- he can be just so problematic it just takes you know one person in the wrong lane and a little snow and so that -- -- good for your right now dale. You know I was I was like culturally it was they stopped to get through it looked down and I thought that the -- it looked like apart collapse like a pop. The system -- union big mistake. Yeah you know what I always do right I go further I just keep going further east until I find a road where there's no one on it and I don't care how far I don't care -- to go to Batavia I'm moving I'm happier than I am sitting on union -- and I'm transit road so good luck dale appreciate the call okay. Are you take care and from dale we go to Mike Mike you're on WB and where are you when he CN. Very -- month and don't go into actually refer to a school best ball you hit that little white out downtown buffalo. That's what I was afraid you know there's a lot of stuff on -- you know there's no hockey game in downtown buffalo tonight to have for the sabres but. You know Christmas that shares our sister station kiss has a big concert going -- down at the arena I was afraid that this was all gonna hit right when it is. In dicier right right in the downtown court -- and it's bad. Right downtown Niagara street and it's really really bad. All right well I hope the players show up and hope you have a good game. Are you have a good night and let's go to. What they do is tip there I guess this is Bob he Bob you're on WBE and where are you what's the whether like. -- -- grandma and -- side. In Manhattan east towards clarify just payouts. Junction and share in the air. And it's coming down -- areas that are out here -- minute. Visibility is about an eight Albemarle largest crowd at 1015 about an hour -- -- Yeah you know this is doing this is textbook lake effect coming right off the lake in this line of weather is you know extends out almost a long point on the lake. In in this southern edge which was you know down below the south towns is now right where you are I mean it is your year right NN in its is moving northward. And we're told that by eight you know sometime in the early evening it's gonna creep back down to the south towns and they'll get an overnight but you're right now part of it right now I'm afraid. But I'm at home element I'm like you myself are very itself already sells for about ten minutes but it does stop sort turned around and came back out the side and and had not become overrode a cell -- side. Now I'm kind of wonder whether I should have done very academic in its early on -- Are -- good luck be safe okay and appreciate the update -- about it yeah I don't know about you I I would rather be moving in a car if in goal. Twenty extra miles than to sit still in you know any kind of a traffic condition. You know in it so often is the case union entry -- can be terrible on the a couple of text of command do 3930 here. Union road we're hearing from someone else that we had a caller no union wrote a mass. Also transit road by eastern hills one of these folks texting into us -- that is pretty much a disaster. You know you combine shopping this time a year on transit road and then -- some snow and a little bit of wind in man I can't think of the place I'd rather. Not be in that would be at transit here. Maple I guess over and an area near the he. The mall in that area -- -- you are on WBE and is it Leo early. Actually you -- where you. Wrote in a lack. What's it like there. While actually -- -- -- like that it seemed like an hour. I act it TE I eat a lot of cold air here because it would get gridlock amateur way. Unfortunate -- -- -- that I am adding that union growth but what happens. -- it will be careful there and be ready go slow okay. RA -- I appreciate the call thanks for checking in. I guess if you know you're in your car you're probably not seeing obviously the radar and I'll try to give you the best picture I can of where this line of lake effect snow you know you've all watched the you know the weather you can picture what -- -- looking at but the southern edge. Of this band of lake effect snow is probably. Right around Angola and and the northern edge. Is just stop on the north side of the town of tunnel Wanda and then just take that and movie eastward and that is where the band of snow is so it's going right across. The northern sections of you know say west Seneca. Up through the metro buffalo area into Amherst where we are in the snow is coming down steady here it's not a wideout but. Steady enough to slow down the 290 over my shoulder. And then moving eastward if you're headed over toward Rochester you're headed toward Batavia. The the ninety yesterday denying he was real bad down west. Today the story is going to be to the east we don't have any travel under advisories right now. Other than be careful we don't have any road closures and -- Malone beat you in just a couple of minutes but the obviously just be be careful because it is bad enough. That a lot of you are checking in now with what's gonna we're gonna do that right now in say hello to. I thought Paul this is Mikey Mike you're on WB EM what's up Mike -- area. Hey Mike are you there. Payment of put -- that's the that's Paul. Okay is this ball. Okay -- I'm sorry I die by I was confused on the screen near where are you Paul. I am writing on the night indeed. On -- let's -- home. Part of Rochester work in Rochester. And it is a wideout. It was dark they want to at work. I just as -- -- maybe 1015 minutes ago. It it is unbelievable. And more and about twenty miles an hour. Eastbound on the night he is not very slow to come up I'm not the amber out. I'm never late and Eminem -- -- -- semis and decided. Come down on the right I don't know where you gonna go but but these drive that. Well I can tell you Paul Paul what's your final destination. Cheektowaga okay actually bike I looked up. Okay well you're you're going to be in the snow all the way till the end because you're right you're right in the middle of that snow band and your -- further into it and it's known in Kaiser -- I can tell you that -- The -- is good and Luke and then the middle and moving. Well we're gonna get an update from Allen in the traffic center here in about 22 so he'll he'll updates you know I've not heard any thing. Other than it slow because of the weather I've not heard anything as far as gridlock is concerned over the. Showed up at -- I just heard you talk about. You'd go are you get up at Acadia and I would bet you think about that I would I would have done that. Next time it will snow again Paul thank you very much for the call I'm Tim Wenger I'm here. Taking your phone calls -- winter weather coverage are storm's center is open so to speak taking your phone calls and 803. 0930 and star 930 your -- at thirty. 930 Brian has aroused he has everything wrapped up for you momentarily and he'll also head into the traffic -- here and WB yen.